There are many that I am interested in, but I wanted to know favourites.
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I love history and I know a number of you do too so I got curious which civilizations/historical periods/mythologies associated with some of you are interested
in and what it was about them that initially captured your interest.
There are many that I am interested in, but I wanted to know favourites. |
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Well, I always like the myths about Lilith. Cracks me up, show those freaks a strong, intelligent woman and she becomes the devil. Incidentally, I used to take
my daughter to the Lilith Fair every year, I miss that and yeah, it even got picketed one year by the Bible thumpers. My daughter and I waved, smiled and
wished them a happy day and a life. We got a giggle or two out of them. I've heard a few different versions of it, she was a (whispers) lesbian. She led
Adam astray, she was the first witch (were in good company) Whatever, loved them all.
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There are so many--but from an early age Greece, Rome, Egypt (especially the Ptolemaic period)and the Renaissance (specifically the Tudor period) have had a
hold upon my imagination. Then I got into the Loas of the Caribbean and all kinds of the mythology that comes out of Hoodoo and Voodoo in the Southern States.
Strangely, despite my Celtic roots, I've never been especially drawn to their mythology....
"There are shoes in my sand".
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I kind of like Knight age. Not sure what years they were.
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My first one I was drawn to was Egyptian.
After that was Keltic, Greek, the only Roman ones that I thought were cool were Mithras and Janus; everyone else they snagged from the Greeks. Norse too. Native American and some of the Aboriginal Australian Dreamtime...Some Indian continent Gods are neat, like Garuda and Hamuman. Japanese Fox Spirits...Arthurian Legends, Gilgamesh and Enkidu
Mithras
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I would love to visit those eras people mentioned in this thread.
Part of me would be apprehensive though, just because of some of the attitudes were very nationalistic and savage. If I were to go, I would love to be more of an observer than a participant. 99 |
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OTWB, there was a thing on History Channel the other day...and it was about the Flood stories and the next one was about Lilith...DH was like I've never
heard of her...I was able to tell him all about her. LOL He just didn't get the unabridged version of the book I guess.
Basically she didn't want to submit to Adam's will so she "became a demon". |
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Spotted Crow wrote: Yep, she was pure evil for telling Adam to get over himself. How dare she!
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I loved the book too. Mary Stewart's version was very good also. Crystal Cave, Last Enchantment, The Hollow Hills and the Wicked Day.There's another
one, but I don't have it yet...I have almost every other book she's written though.
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Spotted Crow wrote: I loved the Mary Stuart's versions too, although, I didn't know about The Wicked Day and the other one. I guess I'll have to look for them at the library. The Mary Stuarts were actually my first taste of Arthur. I read them when I was very young, then again, not so long ago. Still though, The Mists of Avalon series KICKS ASS. I was so sad when I was finished them first time around. I loved the stories of the isle, the mists; I always had such a hard time with Morgaene being the heavy, it really didn't work for me. Down deep in my heart of hearts, I just didn't buy it. She was amazingly human, albeit tragic in The Mists of Avalon series and I thought her relationship with Arthur was more realistic. The results were the same, but without the mysoginy. Having a brain fart, but recently I read a great book about the life of Merlin, that I truly loved. I'll give it some thought, then share that one too. It was wonderful. I just kind of stumbled acrossed it at the library, I can't even remember the author. |
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TH White did one and a Tolstoy which I couldn't slog through no matter how hard I tried.
Another good series is the Prydain Chronicles. Also the series my Kenneth Flint which are out of print...it's all about the beginning of Keltic mythology. I cried watching the series of Mists. Sam Neill did a thing on Merlin...I like him so I watched it, but it was more of a fantasy/scifi thing... |
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Another one of the big errors that Lilith was guilty of was wanting to take "the superior" position during sex--ie she liked being on top.
PS> I love Mary Stewart. There are a few of her books that are about witchcraft and the way she writes about it makes you wonder if she actually was a witch herself.
"There are shoes in my sand".
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Here's an interview with her...
http://www.lib.rochester.edu/CAMELOT/intrvws/stewart.htm |
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Spotted Crow wrote: LOL, I think I caught a rerun of the Lilith thing Saturday night on History Channel International (and they say I have no life!). Apparently, God made the
mistake of making her from the same ground he made Adam from, so they were made equally. Adam demanded that she be subserviant. Not only did she refuse, she
actually SAID the unspeakable name of God, OUTLOUD (the absolute nerve!). It gave her so much power that she flew away into the heavens. God commanded that
she go back and she refused, so God proclaimed that he would kill 100 of her demonic children every day for eternity. He learned from his mistake though, and
made Eve out of Adam's rib so she wouldn't be inclined to demand equality.
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Lol. Along the same lines, I've always rather liked Jezebel ever since my old headmaster and priest used to call me one
In the Tanakh (the Hebrew Scriptures and the Christian Old Testament), Jezebel is a queen of ancient Israel. Her story is told in 1st and 2nd Kings. She is introduced as a Phoenician princess, the daughter of King Ithobaal I of Sidon, who marries King Ahab. She turns Ahab away from the God of the Israelites and of the Jews (being the inhabitants of Judah in this context) and toward the worship of Phoenician god, Baal. Ahab and Jezebel let temples of Baal operate in Israel, and the pagan religion receives royal patronage. Furthermore, the queen uses her control over Ahab to lead the Hebrews into sin and subject them to tyranny. After she has the prophets of Yahweh slaughtered, the prophet Elijah challenges 450 prophets of Baal to a test (1 Kings 18), exposes their god as powerless, has them slaughtered (1 Kings 18:40), and incurs Jezebel's furious enmity. After Ahab's death, Jezebel continues to rule through her son Ahaziah. When Ahaziah is killed in battle, she exercises control through her other son, Jehoram. As recounted in 2Kings 9:1-10, God speaks through the prophet Elisha (Elijah's successor), and has one of his servants anoint Jehu as king in Jehoram's place, adding "thou shalt smite the house of Ahab thy master." Acting on this divine commission for revolution, Jehu kills King Jehoram as he attempts to flee in his war chariot. Jehu then confronts Jezebel in Jezreel and urges her eunuchs to kill the queen mother by throwing her out a window (defenestration). They comply, tossing her out the window and leaving her in the street to be eaten by dogs. Only Jezebel's skull, feet, and hands remained. Her ignominious end thus fulfills Elijah's prophecy 1Kings 21:22-26. [edit] The NameUsing the vowels traditionally used for this name by Hebrew readers, the Hebrew form of this name means "not exalted". But it is highly unlikely her parents would have given her such a name. Read with different vowels it can be understood as meaning "Where is the Prince?" ('ay zebul in Hebrew). In fact, early Syrian inscriptions from Ugarit demonstrate that "the Prince" (equivalent of Hebrew "Zebul") was a popular title for the storm god of the Phoenicians. The sentence "Where is the Prince?" is even found in Ugaritic literature. It is a form of invocation, calling on the god named to appear and act. In other words, this Tyrian princess was given a name in praise of the chief god of her people (whom the Hebrew Bible refers to mainly by the title "Baal", meaning "lord, master"). "Jezebel" is, then, a reinterpretation, intended to mock this Queen and her god, whom she encouraged Israel to worship. The Hebrew Bible contains two other examples of this name formula. First, in the larger context of the Jezebel story, after Elijah is taken up, Elisha strikes the Jordan with Elijah's cloak and cries, "Where is YHWH, the God of Elijah?" as an invocation for God to part the waters, as he had done from Elijah (2 Kings 2). Second, the name "Ichabod", traditionally read as "no glory" (son of the priest Phinehas, in 1 Samuel) may be read as, "Where is the Glory?" In context, the question becomes sadly ironic, because "the Glory" is associated with the ark of the covenant, which has just been captured by the Philistines. A related type of Hebrew name is "Who is like God/yaweh?" (Michael/Micaiah) [edit] In the New TestamentIn Revelation 2:20, a prophecy is uttered against a prophetess in the church of Thyatira named Jezebel. She is accused of inducing members of the church there to commit acts of sexual immorality and to eat things sacrificed to idols. [1] [edit] CarthageJezebel is said to be the great aunt of Queen Dido, founder of Carthage, who is best known for her depiction in Virgil's The Aeneid. [edit] Jezebel in modern culture[edit] Jezebel as a 'hussy'The name Jezebel has come down through the centuries to be used as a general name for all wicked women. In modern usage the name of Jezebel is sometimes used as a synonym for sexually promiscuous and sometimes controlling women, as in the title of the 1938 Bette Davis film Jezebel or the 1951 Frankie Laine hit "Jezebel". This image is epitomised by the phrase "painted Jezebel." The "painted" part refers to a line in II Kings, just before she is killed, where she puts on her makeup. While it is often negative in connotation, some embrace the image, as is evidenced by various lingerie designs named after Jezebel. From a biblical and Christian point of view, a comparison to Jezebel would suggest that a person would be a pagan or an apostate masquerading as a servant of God, who by manipulation and/or seduction misleads the saints of God into sins of idolatry and sexual immorality, making them ineffective. From a Christian point of view, It has also been used to refer to those who challenge evidence and belief in God.[citation needed] That name is used in reference to a woman who rules her husband. [edit] Cultur
"There are shoes in my sand".
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LMFAO, love how she wouldn't be caught dead without her makeup. (shaking head) THIS is one of the biggest reasons I started heading towards paganism, show
me a strong woman and I'll show you a Jezebel according to the bible. Poor Ahab, being led astray and FORCED do lead people into tyranny at HER behest.
Seriously... I think the Bible is one of the most mysoginistic works of fiction, ever.
Could those ole boys own nothing of their own doing? |
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xCall me Ishmaelx |
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You can't blame God and the Devil for everything...
~Mark~
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It could be worse...she could have the same attributes as Obsidian Butterfly...
Her nether regions had teeth.... |
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